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It’s complicated so please bear with me. My wife agrees her dad is an alcoholic. She knows he was absent in her life growing up, and caused a lot of hurt and pain for her because she knew the drinking always came first – not her.

He pretty much always has a beer in hand, never completely trashed (around us at least). Her dads girlfriend recently made a comment about making this year more about family.

This concerned me, I found myself thinking some pretty negative thoughts about how they want to leech into our lives and onto our hard work (we’ve got our lives together) and that I would just not rather have them in our life. I don’t like the fact that I think this, because I’m usually a pretty caring person, and I find myself second guessing my "hard line in the sand" because I know its her DAD and after all he is part of the family.

Up until now, our relationship has been getting a little closer than it was (her and her dad didn’t speak or even send cards for many years). This is clearly because we had a son, and I think he realizes he messed up with her and wants to makeup for it. So he has been buying our grandson gifts, and took us out to dinner a few times, had Easter at their house (which I was out of town for).To me, I would kind of like to limit it to that, and even that is pushing it. I don’t want to be unreasonable here, and I know I need to take my wifes wants/ needs into this as well but now we are running into a situation where she arranged for them to babysit for us and the whole thing is making me REALLY uncomfortable – like my wife is allowing a serpent to sneak up on our child! I know thats a horrible image, but when she told me that is seriously what I thought. His girlfriend musta been surprised my wife allowed it too, because my wife told me she made the comment "dont worry, I REALLY AM A GOOD GRANDMOTHER". I guess my view is if you need to say something like that, then you probably aren’t! (though perhaps she is just saying that she isn’t the perpetrator of the bad behavior and trying to distancing herself from him).

My wife’s dad also recently lost his wife (to alcoholism), which may have played a part in his change, but maybe I’m just cold person but I don’t think so. I should mention that my wife seems to fool herself into believing the problems between her and her dad were caused by his wife (the one who died). So I can see how she might want to try again with him with her not there, but I think we both know deep down that, while his late wife may have been very mean to her (my wife) as a child, HER DAD was the one who made the choice to not put a priority on his daughter (my wife).

I am torn, because it would be nice if they wanted to be in our life, but I do not want them in our life on THEIR terms of current lifestyle. And I DON’T want for my son to be negatively impacted by this – in any way shape or form AT ALL. My wife and I also agree that these is little to zero chance that her dad will change. I wish my wife were stronger, But I KNOW that she will not confront him about his drinking problem, for whatever reason she is scared. I think its because she knows that if forced to pick between us (HER) and the bottle, he will choose the bottle – and that would open up deep wounds from childhood for her.

So she seems content to receive them with open arms, thinking any positive change they make is good. I agree, but where we differ is that I feel like we need to set some kind of boundaries and limit our relationship with them until they change. And even if they do change, I’ve been around alcohol long enough that I know once someone is an alcoholic they can easily fall back especially when they’ve been into that lifestyle for 40+ years.

PLEASE HELP!!

What should we do? Do I need to be the ****** in this situation? Part of me says "MAN UP" and protect your son and I know that I will do that if I need to, as of now I’ve let her take charge of matters concerning her family and so have been the a nice guy around her dad and his girlfriend. However, if I do exchange words with him, I know it will probably get heated and I will wind up issuing him an ultimatum and then my wife will be mad at ME!

If it were up to me, I’d say "drop em". Don’t need that in my life. But then again, would I be like that to my dad or mom? Probably not. So I need to be careful, I wish my wife would get the strength to see this situation for what it is, but in the meantime – what boundaries can and should be set without totally driving them out of our life? This is hard.
>>You wrote to much so I refuse to answer…..

Well PISS OFF then mate. It’s my family we’re talking about here and this could make or break it if I allow him to go with grandpa who drives drunk and kills my boy. Sorry to inconvenience you with a few paragraphs.
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You have all sorts of issues and anger here which are unrelated to these people’s abilities to grandparent/influence on your son, who will not be harmed by Grandpa being a bit beer-y. Don’t let them drive, and find something else to worry about.
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K, I can see how you would think this regarding my response to Jacks lazy, unthoughtful, non-answer. Maybe I overreacted to him, but consider that alcohol has been a problem for our family, we have put years of work into figuring out how to live with it, after having it nearly destroy our relationship (before our son). My appeal to yahoo answers may have been random, but at least I put some thought into explaining the situation so people could get as good a read on the situation as possible. Yes, Jacks answer bothered me, but please don’t mistake that for "anger unrelated to these people".
The way I see it, they made decisions in life. They CHOSE to put themselves first and made a priority out of having fun. Even when it hurt other people. I’m sorry, but thats not the kind of behavior that one should expect out of family. To me, family means you can COUNT on them. That wouldn’t apply here, and about drinking and driving, you try taking away a drunks keys. Some will let you, some won’t.
My wifes mothers boyfriend has been there from the beginning, and is 1000X better grandpa, not to mention two great grandpas on my side (my dad and step dad). I should make it clear that if my dad or stepdad with the alcohol problem, I would step in in a heartbeat and tell them they can be a part of our family on our terms. Why is it wrong to want to protect your family from a hazard?

You need to sit down with your wife and explain how you feel and the both of you agree to boundaries.
Don’t let him take care of your child alone, don’t let him drive him anywhere or anything unsafe – I’m sure you can both agree to that.

The odds are, your wife may need some counseling herself to address how she has felt all these years, and the want to make it okay shouldn’t outweigh the very real concerns you have. She’s trying to salvage an important relationship to her – and most people, once they have kids, think a LOT about their childhood and try to make things better, even if it’s just in their heads.

Limit visits. Have them over for dinner ONCE a week or once every other week. See how that goes.
Ask your wife what she feels is a good start, and see if you can build a relationship that works for all of you. UNTIL you have good reason to start limiting things again, then just slowly build things up. That way, your wife sees you’re trying to be civil, and your FIL has a chance to prove himself.

The second he seems drunk or anything, visit is over. You can’t expect him to change overnight, but you can expect him to behave decently and safely around your child. Just assuming that he will leach off your lives isn’t enough to cut him off – but unsafe behavior is.

All you can do is try to keep explaining how you feel to your wife, that you don’t want your toddler to feel how she did as a kid, and that you ARE trying to meet her halfway. You can’t cut him out until you have a good reason. Be reasonable, don’t assume the worst, and get her to agree that when you feel very uncomfortable, that she will be sensitive to that. Once you’ve agreed to some simple rules and simple visits, then drop the discussion for awhile until you can gauge how he’s being. Give it a month and see how you feel – and then either restrict more, or keep things as they are.

Maybe both of you should attend meetings of those who suffer with alcoholics, or just some counseling to help both you figure out what works for you, and how to handle him. I didn’t see anything that said RED FLAG to me – but you obviously are VERY wary of the whole thing, and are super sensitive to anything involving them.

Talk to your wife and ask her what she feels is meeting her halfway, and then try to relax and enjoy what little relationship there is UNTIL there is a serious issue such as him wanting to drive your child.

You don’t have to like your in-laws, you just have to learn to get along enough to make your wife happy, while still making sure your son is safe. I doubt your wife would let him do ANYTHING to your son considering her past – but if she has let go, you need to too.

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